or 3 hours later via Spur Ranch Rd. at about 11:30. Spur Ranch is at least
easier to negotiate than Compadres but far worse that the well constructed
(and much more expensive section) near Spur Ranch. I think I'm seeing the
road reject a lot of water, that is the water stays on the surface rather
than bleeding though the base coat as it does in conventional well made base
coated roads. Certainly the road is performing better now than after our
first light rain exposure. This seems cautiously optimistic to me. Now
when the road work was being done I did notice that the crowning was minimal
and that a low crown didn't seem compatible with the verbal description of
the ionic functionality. Perhaps, if any rework is done a higher crown
could be tried. Of course if that doesn't work then we face a higher
probability of winding up with our cars in the ditch.
A few of us near Compadres have looked at it with an eye to improving
its wet weather performance and have some ideas relevant to that end. Jim,
feel free to call if you think I might help. We dare not wind up without a
way out of here this winter as some of us face health issues that might
require immediate exit. I have a fairly well functioning 4 wheel drive
vehicle that could be used in emergencies to cross fields if necessary.
Jim, perhaps we should set up our own emergency evacuator network? It takes
4 or 5 times as long to get an emergency vehicle into Camino Rosa Linda,
under good conditions as would to get a person to the El Dorado fire
station.
Bill Davis
----Original Message-----
From: sevenbears@cnsp.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Patel, Sandeep, DOH
Cc: 'Fred Richardson' ; 'Jim Garland' ; bob@bobholzer.com ;
linhdill@yahoo.com ; maryannestickler@gmail.com ; rjmcmillan53@yahoo.com ;
ppreston@cybermesa.com ; ejbuilder@yahoo.com ; bonnie.marie25@gmail.com ;
ahvassallo@aol.com ; kirst-millspaugh@msn.com ; shortcreek1995@hughes.net ;
janderson@anderson-realestate.com ; w_f_davis@msn.com ;
kerry_armour@hotmail.com ; Robertaa@cnsp.com ; elliebeth@aol.com ;
danielbethune@mac.com ; willstrong@gmail.com ; victoriawshepard@aol.com ;
nathanbc@impulse.net ; lebettis@gmail.com ; doreen.hutchins@cnsp.com ;
nor@cybermesa.com ; laespuela2@msn.com ; annbitter3@gmail.com ;
iraniaveliz@aol.com ; bprothro@aol.com ; sevenbears@cnsp.com ;
pangiagreg@hotmail.com ; rdera@aol.com ; bob@bobborden.me ;
marzad2@yahoo.com ; ernst@esedona.net ; gdoven@aol.com ; luthier@cnsp.com ;
wingedvictory@mac.com ; sandeeppatel@state.nm.us ; carolbernal48@yahoo.com ;
scottrivers@yahoo.com ; don@donhalljr.com ; nemmiller@yahoo.com ;
orbital@rothritter.com ; galanrobinson@comcast.net ; speterson@ecfin.com ;
natyork@yahoo.com ; srra1.lamynm@blogger.com ; 'Al Webster'
Subject: RE: Spur Ranch Road Update #2
Everyone served by SRR, as well as the folks who provided the treatment,
is disappointed in the way the road has turned out. If you have thoughts
about what ought to be done, kindly share them with the folks on the SRRA
board so your ideas may be considered.
Jake Greene
TCHA President
> I completely agree with the assessment below. My wife in her AWD car
> almost slid off the road this morning. Please provide an update as to
> what the company and committee is doing to resolve the problem with Spur
> Ranch. We sincerely appreciate your help.
>
> Thank you.
> Sandeep Patel
> 5 Vista Estrella S
> 505-577-3316
>
> From: Fred Richardson [mailto:fred.richardson@lpl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:13 AM
> To: 'Jim Garland'; bob@bobholzer.com; linhdill@yahoo.com;
> maryannestickler@gmail.com; rjmcmillan53@yahoo.com;
> ppreston@cybermesa.com; ejbuilder@yahoo.com; bonnie.marie25@gmail.com;
> ahvassallo@aol.com; kirst-millspaugh@msn.com; shortcreek1995@hughes.net;
> janderson@anderson-realestate.com; w_f_davis@msn.com;
> kerry_armour@hotmail.com; Robertaa@cnsp.com; elliebeth@aol.com;
> danielbethune@mac.com; willstrong@gmail.com; victoriawshepard@aol.com;
> nathanbc@impulse.net; lebettis@gmail.com; doreen.hutchins@cnsp.com;
> nor@cybermesa.com; laespuela2@msn.com; annbitter3@gmail.com;
> iraniaveliz@aol.com; bprothro@aol.com; sevenbears@cnsp.com;
> pangiagreg@hotmail.com; rdera@aol.com; doreen.hutchins@cnsp.com;
> bob@bobborden.me; marzad2@yahoo.com; ernst@esedona.net; gdoven@aol.com;
> luthier@cnsp.com; wingedvictory@mac.com; sandeeppatel@state.nm.us;
> carolbernal48@yahoo.com; scottrivers@yahoo.com; don@donhalljr.com;
> nemmiller@yahoo.com; orbital@rothritter.com; galanrobinson@comcast.net;
> speterson@ecfin.com; Patel, Sandeep, DOH; natyork@yahoo.com;
> srra1.lamynm@blogger.com; 'Al Webster'
> Subject: RE: Spur Ranch Road Update #2
>
> To road committee and neighbors,
>
> My wife almost did not make it to work this morning for Spur Ranch is
> deteriorating rapidly as more people drive on it. Now the back route is
> also deteriorating as more people avoid Spur Ranch and drive that way. In
> two more days we have another storm coming. We need a plan or we are going
> to have a major disaster when none of us can get to our homes.
>
> Help,
>
> Fred
>
>
> Fred Richardson, AAMS(r)
> President & LPL Financial Advisor
>
> Zia Financial Group
> 7 Caliente Road, Suite A-7
> Santa Fe, NM 87508
> 505.819.5914 Phone
> 866.719.6119 Fax
> www.ziafinancialgroup.com
> Fred.richardson@lpl.com<mailto:Fred.richardson@lpl.com>
>
> Securities are offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Garland [mailto:4cx250b@muohio.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:53 PM
> To: 4cx250b@muohio.edu; bob@bobholzer.com; linhdill@yahoo.com;
> maryannestickler@gmail.com; rjmcmillan53@yahoo.com;
> ppreston@cybermesa.com; ejbuilder@yahoo.com; bonnie.marie25@gmail.com;
> ahvassallo@aol.com; kirst-millspaugh@msn.com; shortcreek1995@hughes.net;
> janderson@anderson-realestate.com; w_f_davis@msn.com;
> kerry_armour@hotmail.com; Robertaa@cnsp.com; elliebeth@aol.com;
> danielbethune@mac.com; willstrong@gmail.com; victoriawshepard@aol.com;
> nathanbc@impulse.net; lebettis@gmail.com; doreen.hutchins@cnsp.com;
> nor@cybermesa.com; laespuela2@msn.com; annbitter3@gmail.com;
> iraniaveliz@aol.com; bprothro@aol.com; sevenbears@cnsp.com;
> pangiagreg@hotmail.com; rdera@aol.com; doreen.hutchins@cnsp.com;
> bob@bobborden.me; marzad2@yahoo.com; ernst@esedona.net; gdoven@aol.com;
> luthier@cnsp.com; wingedvictory@mac.com; sandeeppatel@state.nm.us;
> carolbernal48@yahoo.com; scottrivers@yahoo.com; fredwrichardson@gmail.com;
> don@donhalljr.com; nemmiller@yahoo.com; orbital@rothritter.com;
> galanrobinson@comcast.net; speterson@ecfin.com; sandeep.patel@state.nm.us;
> natyork@yahoo.com; srra1.lamynm@blogger.com; 'Al Webster'
> Subject: Spur Ranch Road Update #2
>
> Dear Neighbor,
> Four of the SRRA directors met this afternoon with Bob Sherwin, president
> of RoadPacker Southwest, to express our concern with the road condition,
> following the 0.15 inch rain that began in the early morning.
>
> We were assured by Mr. Sherwin that he, too, is very concerned about the
> condition of the road, as is the corporate office of RoadPacker
> International, in Calgary. The CEO of RP International, Michael McDermott,
> is presently in Asia, overseeing a large project there, but is flying back
> to Santa Fe from Manila to study our situation and recommend corrective
> action. He is expected to arrive sometime within the next two weeks. The
> directors were assured that the condition of the road surface (this
> morning's rain impacted roughly the top inch of the road) is very unusual,
> if not unprecedented. RoadPacker's promotional literature asserts that the
> treatment results in "a water repellent, rock-hard, maintenance free
> surface for dirt roads," and also that the product has been used "for over
> 23 years in 22 countries outside the U.S., to solve problems of dust,
> wash-boarding, never-ending maintenance, and mud associated with dirt and
> the deterioration of asphalt." To illustrate his point, Mr. Sherwin showed
> us before-and-after photographs of an airport access road in Campeche,
> Mexico that had been completely submerged in a torrential downpour but
> which was fully drivable the next day. (I can email you the photos on
> request: file size is 5MB).
>
> So what is causing the difficulty with our road? Mr. Sherwin believes
> there have been two problems: (1) in the initial treatment, the western
> part of the road (between Silver Saddle and the RR tracks) was too wet
> when it was compacted. Evidently, when this happens, the curing period is
> extended considerably. And (2) there were problems with the chemical
> properties of the hundreds of tons of clay which were brought in and added
> to the road material. Without getting overly technical, the clay was too
> alkaline, with a ph of 8.8, well outside the desirable range of 7-8. Also,
> it had a "Cation Exchange Capacity" that was far too low. (In the language
> most of us speak that means it wasn't sticky enough.)
>
> The ultimate fix for these problems won't be known until after CEO
> McDermott and his technical staff analyze our situation. Mr. Sherwin,
> however, has assured us verbally and in writing that "we remain committed
> to making this the road that we all intended for you and your residents."
> This has obviously been a costly learning experience for him, as well as
> a very trying experience for all of us. However, at this point the
> directors believe that the company genuinely wants to correct these
> problems, whatever it takes, and so we continue to call for patience from
> our community. (Incidentally, the roadwork you may have observed this
> afternoon is just a temporary measure to restore the road's drivability).
>
> Please feel free to email or phone me or any of the directors if you have
> additional questions.
> Regards,
> Jim
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